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Re: Please sanity check sa.surbl.org announcement
by Jeff Chan 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

On Sunday, April 11, 2004, 12:29:43 AM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> writes: >> Can any 3.0 guys able to comment if I got the urirhsbl syntax correct: > It's correct, but you might not need to get it correct because the rule > will likely ship with 3.0 when it is released if it seems to work well > and it helps. Let's hope that proves to be the case. :-) Would you please do a spam and ham corpora check with "sa.surbl.org" whenever you can? We'd really like to know any false positives to remove if that's possible to determine. > I have a concern about the rule. Bill Stern's SpamAssassin blacklist is > a blacklist *for* SpamAssassin, so I think the naming of your rule and > the DNSBL name (sa.surbl.org) are unintentionally a bit misleading since > the list is not maintained by the ASF or SpamAssassin. I think it would > be a good idea to rename the DNSBL and the rule to make this clearer. > Maybe we should encourage (or help) Bill Stern to pick a snappy name. > :-) Fair enough. I picked sa.surbl.org out of thin air since his rule started with "sa" and to give oblique credit to the original motivation for his rule, if not the precise source. Bill, anyone, got some better names? I prefer two letters. (sa and sc were kind of confusing anyway.) "sb" for Sa-Blacklist anyone? LOL! ;-) > Also, it would be better from our perspective if we could get multiple > RBL results from a single query to reduce overhead. Any of multiple A > (like NJABL, SBL/XBL, or SORBS), bitmask A (like OPM or RBL+), or > multiple TXT (like SBL/XBL) would probably not be too hard to support > (Justin?). We deliberately did not want to combine Bill's list and mine not so much due to not-invented-here syndrome but because their source data is so different, and because their size and time factors are pretty radically different at present. I gave some of the original reasons in the proposed announcement which I had not forwarded here yet, but will now. >> P.S. If we can get some 3.0 developers on discuss(a)lists.surbl.org, >> perhaps we can take the talk there. > Carbon-coping spamassassin-dev(a)incubator.apache.org (which is public) > for SpamAssassin issues (all versions) is probably the easiest way to > get SpamAssassin developers involved in a discussion. OK Cross-posting it is... :-| LOL! Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org-nospam http://www.surbl.org/

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Re: Please sanity check sa.surbl.org announcement
by Jeff Chan 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

On Sunday, April 11, 2004, 12:29:43 AM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Also, it would be better from our perspective if we could get multiple > RBL results from a single query to reduce overhead. Any of multiple A > (like NJABL, SBL/XBL, or SORBS), bitmask A (like OPM or RBL+), or > multiple TXT (like SBL/XBL) would probably not be too hard to support > (Justin?). Dooh, I think I just realized you were asking whether multiple RBLs could be supported from a single query inside SA, and not whether we could combine the lists on the RBL side. Pardon my misinterpretation if that was your original meaning. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org-nospam http://www.surbl.org/

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] surbl.com and surbl.net registered
by Doc Schneider 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> wrote .. > FWIW I just registered surbl.net and surbl.com to prevent > doofuses from registering them and setting up bogus RBLs on > them, as I recall happened to another RBL. > > Also set up an Apache redirect permanent for them to > www.surbl.org, which remains the real domain. > > Cheers, > > Jeff C. > Awesome Jeff. I always registered the big three for all my domains too. Might also want to considering grabbing surbl.us seems more and more folks are geting those too. -Doc

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surbl.com and surbl.net registered
by Jeff Chan 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

FWIW I just registered surbl.net and surbl.com to prevent doofuses from registering them and setting up bogus RBLs on them, as I recall happened to another RBL. Also set up an Apache redirect permanent for them to www.surbl.org, which remains the real domain. Cheers, Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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